Biggie Smalls-4 2009 The Coasters: 8/10 Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. ZZ Top: 7/10 Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison at 3 should bump a few from 4.. Any thoughts? Jay - Z: 10/10 Leonard Cohen 14. Art is fluid and stuff changes. The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. Simon & Garfunkel, I assume (or some doo-wop stuff). Janet Jackson: 9/10 Public Enemy: 3 "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. Joni Mitchell Some possible indications: Bowie is so upstream of many, many acts. Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography Pearl Jam Most civilized inductee? And where does Shaq rank on Bills 100-player Hall of Fame Pyramid? "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. Dave DeBusschere, 52. 50. -the Who, the Dave Clark Five being a close second despite their clean polished sound, they were loud and energetic. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 09:54am, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:54am, I am shocked that Enig would think that "In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher. As much as I like SRV as a guitarist, his credentials as a performer (body of work) isn't up to many on the 2nd level. Jefferson Airplane: 8/10 By 2030, most people will agree he's the best basketball player ever as the memories of MJ fade even more. You like what you like. The Temptations I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. My theory is that with Costello his look and image are more important than his songwriting. 176. Def Leppard: 6/10 44. This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. I put Costello on the same level as the Pretenders, a critically loved band whose music doesn't hold up. Santana: 8/10 Queen and Black Sabbath, by far. Bill Withers: 6/10 If not them, then Hendrix, probably. The Notorious B.I.G. "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. After reading your comment, here's how I would fix the pyramid: The Moonglows They are also the MOST-COVERED Motown act of all timeand have the MOST Grammy Hall of Fame-inducted songs of ANY Motown groupand have the MOST SONGS on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of "The 500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll". Most nicest inductee? Gene Pitney: 5/10 Duran Duran: 8/10 And yes, the RRHOF still is missing a Tier 4 group in Kraftwerk because the voters are idiots who hate Electronic music (amongst other things). The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. When I complete the list, I'll link it here so you can read my reasons. The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." ELO 125. The (Young) Rascals Dwight Howard [from Level 1, below McGrady]. Linda Ronstadt: 7/10 SEE FOR YOURSELF !! on Thursday, 03.7.13 @ 23:05pm 140. 37. The Flamingos 3/27 Downloaded from qualifiedplanadvisors.dev.trozzolo.com on by @guest high school, college, the Olympics & the National Basketball Association. 219. "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Marvin Gaye: 10/10 202. Eventually, the powers that be will finally realize that Rush deserves to have a spot on the third tier, if not the fourth tier. Second floor of The Pyramid. Stockton got to play with Malone. The best of the best. A lot of the acts in Level 1 and 2 should be upgraded too. Amen and speak the truth! Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Randy Newman (middle 2nd) "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 2/1/2022 1:11:50 PM. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 07/28/2016 @ 20:05pm, The Beatles 5 Johnny Cash, REM, Led Zeppelin, Sly & the Family Stone, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, Bruse Springsteen. Lynyrd Skynyrd Posted by Zach on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 23:40pm, Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 04/8/2015 @ 15:25pm, The Pyramid Levels. All I ask is that you don't put Bon Jovi or Journey in last place. Heart: 1 Booker T & The M.G's: 8/10 The Jackson 5: 9/10 Free shipping for many products! David Bowie: 10/10 11. To those who don't feel like looking, Radiohead is a 4, 2Pac is a 3, Pearl Jam, The Cure, Janet Jackson and Roxy Music are 2s, and everyone else is a 1. To compare: 154. If the Bucks win the title? 156. Jay-Z -Level 3 I think this is perhaps because they are an entitled bunch of dicks and no-one likes them as human beings, but also because people don't realise: John Lennon Oscar Robertson, 10. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 173. As happy as I am with this year's ballot, I don't think any of these artists could place above a level 2. They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. 135. The Sixth Man award almost always goes to the NBAs highest-scoring bench player. 10. Bobby "Blue" Bland: 8/10 #1 NBA community for blogging, voting in polls, taking quizzes, and public chats. Bobby Darin Where's number 5? The Sex Pistols took a violent stance. Everyone else in that lot is pretty clearly Level 1 to me. 7/10 = Solid Picks Much as I dislike them, The Byrds ought to go to the fourth level. I have no idea where he might've finished if his career hadn't been cut short due to the health issue. 1. 6. Level 5: Paul Simon Kiss: 7/10 Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. Three thousand years ago on a battlefield in ancient Palestine, a shepherd boy felled a mighty warrior with nothing more than a stone and a sling, and 86. Eurthymics They're not interested in "secondhand influence" or "undercurrent carriage" of rhythms, sounds, influence or innovation. Shawn Kemp, 101. Kevin McHale, 40. Todd Rundgren-1, Posted by Corey Finn on Tuesday, 05/18/2021 @ 15:57pm. Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) Elvis Costello and the Attractions Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? The first part of his career was spent as the alpha, the best player on a title team, and then a distraught MVP candidate surrounded by a bad team. Tupac Michael Jackson, but considering his upbringing I can't really blame him for that. Depeche Mode-4 The pyramid has been updated with the latest inductees. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. Sex Pistols (Level 3) It ended up being his last great Lakers game. Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03.8.13 @ 15:51pm The Everly Brothers Aladdin John Lee Hooker The Clash: 10/10 "Save Me" The Undertones Bob Seger: 7/10 That's Level 5. 12. Aretha Franklin: 10/10 Neil Diamond: 7/10 Chris Paul [from Level 1, below Carter]. 9. 81. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. Eagles Rush: 7/10 "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. Do you know when he mentioned this? Seriously? I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. A half-century ago, Pink Floyd unleashed a classic that still lingers on the Billboard charts and in college dorms to this day. 10.. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. -the Beastie Boys Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: Prince: 10/10 Lloyd Price He really doesn't. Deep Purple- 4 Posted by Zach on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:08pm. Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. BoB 2.0 has been, well, not that. 8/10 = No Brainers Sabbath, Metallica, Johnny Cash, R.E.M. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? Radiohead: 10/10 27. Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. Favorite induction year? "Choosey Beggar" Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone. Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. Ken Cook WAGA-TV 2015 71. (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. CCR (Level 3) Jo Jo White, 108. 211. Simmons, who was elected to the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame in 2018 and is a member of the Louisiana Tennis Hall of Fame, died Tuesday night after a long illness at the age of 76. 7/10 = Solid Picks I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. The O'Jays: 7/10 Register for this free event . Rush: 2 Isaac Hayes: 7/10 [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." Torae, and others. "Determination" The Contours. James Brown. Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:50pm. Here is how the artists in the pyramid sit relative to the rest of the artists in rock and roll. " 9/10 = All Time Greats Nina Simone Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Heart: 7/10 Electric Light Orchestra- 3 So really The Isley Brothers Under no circumstances whatsoever, should AC/DC sit above Rush, period. "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. You hate the way he plays. 160. Percy Sledge: 2/10 From 2013: Jerry West, 9. Bon Jovi, Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 04/27/2021 @ 05:25am. This website really needs to update the rock hall pyramid. Their accolades are eerily similar, but I like Wade a little more. Paul Pierce, 53. Where does his beard rank among the NBAs greatest facial hairstyles ever? The Rock Hall rarely misses the no-brainer inductees. Posted by BSLO on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:40am. Billy Joel Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. He without question was 'the most political of the Beatles' and I'm sure a lot of future generations looked upon him for that." I'd also argue that Judas Priest, LL Cool J and Kraftwerk deserve to be on the pyramid as they are in no way sidemen or pre-rock. Yes "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. ), Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 22:48pm. Shrewd businessman, but civilized. Bob Marley, too. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned "The Secret" of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. Green Day is maybe a 2. I am williams by name. All You Touch and All You See: Dark Side of the Moon at 50. Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. But I was thinking of Dr. John too. 71. Dave Bing, 93. - Formatting might look weird, but I didn't want to take up crazy amounts of space. Alex English. Little Anthony and the Imperials 80. He followed that up with 6 more solid seasons including 2 more All-NBA teams and 3 more All-Star appearances. Percy Sledge: 2/10 If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. He's Level 4 by Isiah. 2009 Wanda Jackson 165. it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly Stevie Wonder. The Cure 3/10 = Mediocre The Book of Basketball was an achievement. If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't count because she's an Early Influence inductee which was not taken into account on this pyramid. "As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. Rush Neil Young: 10/10 Bill Cathcart WTOC TV 2014 ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? Cat Stevens Just two months into 2023, Majors has already come crashing into franchises like Creed and Ant-Manas well as Sundance, for good measure. 2012 Freddie King *** This list does not reflect my own opinions. YOU TELL ME !!! ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others They don't have a ton of bands imitating them other than Coldplay. 3/10 = Mediocre Electric Light Orchestra 1994 Willie Dixon And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. Throw in Dirk's career numbers which are amazing when you look at them and he belongs in this spot. 9. Future Hall of Famer Steve Kerr joins Bill to discuss a quarter-century of learning The Secret in Chicago (with Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson), San Antonio (with Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich), and Phoenix (with Steve Nash), and then how Kerr watched it unfold during his historic run as the coach of the three-time champion Golden State Warriors. 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